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ofc I am! lol. That's why I came up with something like that. But my point is, unless a person WANTS you to use your penis on him/ her, it is (and if it isn't, should be) illegal.

ems wrote:

ofc I am! lol. That's why I came up with something like that. But my point is, unless a person WANTS you to use your penis on him/ her, it is (and if it isn't, should be) illegal.

YEAH, and I was talkn' 'bout making love NOT RAPING SOMEONE or otherwise abusing them, right?

and using a gun on someone isn't abusing someone, yeah?

ems wrote:

and using a gun on someone isn't abusing someone, yeah?

Jeebitz.

i was talking about boys using their penises as much as they want or needed and you indicated that was as illegal as using a gun in most circumstances and i sand NO IT IS NOT. Of course i'm not talking about raping someone or whatever. JEEBITZ... but ofc YOU can't quite sort that all out.

*shakes head*

THIS ISNT ABOUT BOYS & THEIR PENISES! ITS ABOUT THE USE OF GUNS IN SOCIETY!

the author isnt saying that guns arent dangerous. but i really liked when he said that having gun doesnt mean hes afraid, it means hes able to be unafraid. the perfect example is what my best friend matt always talks about.

he lives in vermont & he tells us that like NOBODY breaks into houses in vermont. why? because everybody has guns, so they dont wanna risk being shot when they break into a house. thats the message the author is trying to get across. did u guys read the whole thing anyway?

I stll don't see he point if you are not going to use it. As in a personal handgun or pistol or whatever. You'd still go to jail I guess. But having guns at home and keepIng away trespassers is a totally different senario.

dare de-vil wrote:

THIS ISNT ABOUT BOYS & THEIR PENISES!

well but this is KB, right?

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did u guys read the whole thing anyway?

yeah, i did. and he didn't say anything about guns preventing break-ins, or penises either, for that matter.

dare de-vil wrote:

so lately ive been getting more interested in my rights to carry a gun (cant until im 21) & i came across this essay on a site that ive been learning what i need to know if i ever do decide to have a firearm. u guys know me, im not big into serious stuff, but i thought this was pretty interesting, not to mention i already agreed with all of it before i even knew about it lol


Why The Gun Is Civilization
March 23, 2007
by Marko Kloos

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation…and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

First you can get your FID but you need to be 21 to get your LTC in MA.
FID basicly allows low capacity rifles and shotguns.
LTC you get the fun pistols and a couple of other things.

I would like to make a few points....

Research and statics have shown the firearms intensify crime situations as well as increase the probability of a more violent or lethal outcome.
Refrence: Cook, Philip J., Jens Ludwig (2000). "Chapter 3". Gun Violence: The Real Costs. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-513793-0.

60-70% of all firearm transactions in the US are enacted through licensed dealers. with the remainder taking place on "secondary markets" (ie private sales, common links to drug and black market etc)
Refrence: Cook, Philip J., S.Molliconi, T.B. Cole (1995). "Regulating Gun Markets". Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (1973-), Vol. 86, No. 1) 86 (1): 59–92.
2nd Refrence: Cook, Philip J., Jens Ludwig (1996). Guns in America: Results of a Comprehensive Survey of Gun Ownership and Use. Police Foundation

I can't find any references for this last bit but I have read and heard that only 2%-5% of gun related crimes are from legally owned and properly registered firearms.

Long story short. I agree that guns can be dangerous but I do believe that the laws surrounding gun ownership is not focused on the true problem relating to gun crime. It makes much more sense to commit a crime with an illegal gun or a gun which is not yours and that's why we see majority of firearm crimes committed with illegal or stolen firearms. I'm all for saftey but not well thought out laws which don't help the problem and make law abiding citizens lives more difficult.

I do enjoy skeet shooting so I think its ok to own firearms for recreational purposes.

Firstly, the article assumes that your gun won't be taken from you. People who carry weapons are more likely to have them taken and used against them than they are to successfully defend themselves with that weapon.

Secondly, it assumes that two people in a confrontation who both have guns will cease conflict, when it only makes it more likely that someone gets shot.

Thirdly, having a gun might make the weak equal with the strong (excluding my first point) but that just means that whoever is more comfortable with and skilled at shooting has control over the situation. That makes the situation even more dangerous because unlike physical strength there's no way of knowing how good someone is with a gun in a conflict situation other than experience. The likelihood is the 'baddie' will be far more comfortable shooting you than you will him.

The cost of the illusion of safety and control over any potential conflict situation that you get form having a gun is your own safety. Bringing a gun into the situation escalates it to the point where the other person feels threatened for their life. In fact, if you threaten a gang member he's more likely to do you serious damage because by standing up to him you threaten his perceived status as a hard man.

happy 4th of july!

so i went to an anagram website & typed in homosexual. one that just made me laugh was "sexual homo" xD

dare de-vil wrote:

so i went to an anagram website & typed in homosexual. one that just made me laugh was "sexual homo" xD

LOL

well, won 2 tickets to the club tonight where is "boys special" evening.. and beer and sider are free all night long...

guess who will have massive hang over at work tomorrow..

vagabond wrote:

well, won 2 tickets to the club tonight where is "boys special" evening.. and beer and sider are free all night long...

guess who will have massive hang over at work tomorrow..

Even shit beer/food tastes good when it's free

Ecii wrote:

vagabond wrote:

well, won 2 tickets to the club tonight where is "boys special" evening.. and beer and sider are free all night long...

guess who will have massive hang over at work tomorrow..

Even shit beer/food tastes good when it's free

Actually, it wasn't somekind of shit beer or something.. it was beer, that I sometimes by for myself from store also

vagabond wrote:

Ecii wrote:

vagabond wrote:

well, won 2 tickets to the club tonight where is "boys special" evening.. and beer and sider are free all night long...

guess who will have massive hang over at work tomorrow..

Even shit beer/food tastes good when it's free

Actually, it wasn't somekind of shit beer or something.. it was beer, that I sometimes by for myself from store also

From my experince, free or penny beer is almost always shitty or watered down. I'm jealous that you got decent stuff

its kinda creepy that i bought a harry potter scarf off of amazon a week ago and ever since the ad bar at the top of this page has been advertising nothing but harry potter clothing...

lol. i gotta make money somehow xD

https://kbboys.darkbb.com/statistics

stats for the site if u guys are interested/didnt know there were stats lol

So who here cares about Pottermore?

ems wrote:

So who here cares about Pottermore?

me! i think it will be facinating to look deeper into the minor characters past and stuff.

I really want to know about the rest of the universe and the more about the magic system. That said, do you know what time the clues come out? I've missed it twice already!

no idea

nerds

dare de-vil wrote:

nerds

and pround of it! i doubt you'll ever meet a person who knows more about hp than me