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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 3:31 pm

Noah.... Baby.... What have you done??? :O Fix your relationship with Jade!!! :'(

Noah has made a big bubu. Neutral But both of them are at fault in my opinion, Noah has changed and true what he went through was traumatic but he can't just sulk forever and act all victim complex and what not. He has to move forward or else he'll just push everyone away.
Jade on the other hand had it coming somewhat, I mean seriously he tells Noah that he's trying to sort out his feelings all over a girl and he expects Noah to understand it somehow, Noah being emotionally fragile did what was, in my opinion gutt instinct because let's face it we are all jealous to some extent and we always wanna one up the competition. I mean we don't want anyone else getting a hold of our man. Hahaha.

The confrontation in my opinion was a necessary one. I think that there will be a lot of realization and insight on both Jade and Noah but I believe that they will work it out in the end.
NAJ FTW!!! Very Happy
Besides Noah is gonna be a daddy and I see Jaden going back to Noah because they need each other for support, not just for each other but for their future son or daughter. Very Happy

It's just my opinion. Don't kill me. :O
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:13 pm

im not gonna kill u lol

and thats exactly what i was saying about noah. just cuz he went through that doesnt mean he can go around & play victim
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:18 pm

Hey Kell!!! The more people that discuss the story, the faster te next chapter will be posted right? Very Happy
Hahaha. Thanks for updating NAJ. Razz
And thanks for not killing me for my opinions. Very Happy
How soon will you update again? Smile
You know how in love I am with your story. Very Happy
Can't deny the Drama LLAMA! Very Happy
Hahahahaha. I don't know why I said drama llama. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:20 pm

thats not how it works lol

and as i told trev last night, this was the first time since may 2009 that 2 chapters in naj were posted within a month of each other. so i dont know how long itll be. how far along r u in the other stories? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:27 pm

Back to the story discussion now. Razz
True, Noah can't use the victim card anymore. Too much victim complex already. I think he has realized it to some extent in chapter 40. He's realized that he's hurting others already, and it took him to hurting the one person he truly loved to realized that he should start thinking of other people's feelings aside from his own.

And I totally agree with Jade saying that Noah was being unfair. But I think that Noah will do everything he can to fight for his man. The realization of him hurting Jaden is evident of that fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:30 pm

very good. lol

i like ur comments albert. i only wonder if u can make a match for alex xD
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:35 pm

Who's Alex?? :O

Oh and thanks. I do love your story and I sometimes get carried away with the chapter analysis. Hahahaha. Very Happy I guess I have school to thank for that. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 5:19 pm

no, its a GOOD thing. the bigger analysis the better Very Happy

alex's username here is sabazius
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 5:25 pm

Hooray for my analysis!!! Very Happy
I wanna see if Alex and I can match up with analysis!!! Very Happy
Update soon!!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 9:06 pm

Yeah... I don't have anything new here to add. Noah is playing the victim card but Jade really is the victim. And i don't think that any of this is Jaden's fault. Noah should give Jaden some space. they after all are no longer boyfriends.

Doesn't Alex already have a bf?
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 9:16 pm

who said anything about boyfriends?
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 9:27 pm

I assumed that the word "match" in this context was synonymous with bf.
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 9:30 pm

and what have u learned now ephraim?
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 9:40 pm

that in this context, the word "match" is not synonymous with bf.
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 9:46 pm

and what DOES it mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 12:51 am

i hope thay go back 2 each other & 4 the baby i hope it a boy becouse if it a girl it coud look like her & outher reason
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 1:39 am

must be scary for a kid his age to already be expecting a baby. obviously this wasnt a...conventional method, but people really need to smarten up when their teenagers. or just in general, not mature enough to have a kid
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 1:56 am

Again, why didn't she use contraceptives?
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 2:18 am

cuz she was NUTS! i regret not going into her craziness more. cuz reading through the story its kinda like whooaaa sudden rape. i wish i had done a better job with it :/ oh well
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 2:26 am

I still don't get how Alex having a boyfriend has anything to do with, well, anything in this discussion
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 2:36 am

Well since it has NOTHING to do with alex having a bf, why don't we just drop it?

Yeah, going into a little bit more detail about her would've helped but overall the rape scene was very well thought out as far as i know.
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 8:20 am

Wow, an awesome chapter and a challenge!

I thought both characters behaved in a very real way. The awkwardness of the whole scene in the shop was palpable. As for who's to blame, I think it's easy to see why Noah is angry. Jaden kinda just dumped him almost out of the blue very soon after some serious trauma which I don't think Noah has properly come to terms with. At the same time, it must be hard for Jaden to suddenly have these feelings for a girl when until now he has been so certain of himself and at peace with his sexual identity. And the fact is, there's no easy answer here. Neither of them is the bad guy here, this is just two people in a really complicated place. Noah was out of line for suggesting that Jaden cheated on him with no evidence, but in such emotional circumstances its hard to say whether I would've done the same.

I think the pregnancy, though unmentioned, hangs over the whole story like a stormcloud threatening to break. I see Noah's increasing childishness and immaturity as a subconscious response to the threat of maturity imposed by fatherhood, a responsibility he probably hadn't thought about before the rape and which was forced on him in the worst possible way. Obsessing over your ex is quite normal behaviour, but it almost seems out of character for Noah to be so paranoid and jealous, until you consider the possibility that he'd much rather focus on something like this, although it might hurt and scare him, than on the consequences of his being raped.

I honestly couldn't say how this is going to pan out, and I really enjoy reading it as ever. I've read published LGBT/young adult fiction with less emotional depth and less developed characters. Why do you think I stick around even though I 'have a life' (to quote a certain Sri Lankan chap) Razz

Keep it up Kell, seriously. Also, since it's been mentioned, I HAVE A BOYFRIEND NA NA NA NA NA! king
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 11:28 am

Sabazius wrote:
I think the pregnancy, though unmentioned, hangs over the whole story like a stormcloud threatening to break. I see Noah's increasing childishness and immaturity as a subconscious response to the threat of maturity imposed by fatherhood, a responsibility he probably hadn't thought about before the rape and which was forced on him in the worst possible way.

Honestly, where the fuck do you get these stuff from?!

Sabazius wrote:

I honestly couldn't say how this is going to pan out, and I really enjoy reading it as ever. I've read published LGBT/young adult fiction with less emotional depth and less developed characters. Why do you think I stick around even though I 'have a life' (to quote a certain Sri Lankan chap) Razz

You stick around cos you love us?
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 29, 2012 6:32 am

ems wrote:
Sabazius wrote:
I think the pregnancy, though unmentioned, hangs over the whole story like a stormcloud threatening to break. I see Noah's increasing childishness and immaturity as a subconscious response to the threat of maturity imposed by fatherhood, a responsibility he probably hadn't thought about before the rape and which was forced on him in the worst possible way.

Honestly, where the fuck do you get these stuff from?!

I've spent the past three years of my life studying English Literature & Philosophy. My mother is a psychotherapist. Analysing stuff in this way is pretty much what I decided to do with my life.
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PostSubject: Re: Story Discussion   Story Discussion - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 03, 2012 12:11 pm

NAJ! Razz
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